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13 July 2010

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J

The 64 dollar question -- how do we 'de-rail' this train so it can't leave the station?

samuelburke

is there a silent oppressive political force in america which even the likes of Terry McCauliffe silence themselves before, as col Lang mentioned in describing the interview, "you could see the latent fear in his eyes as he mumbled to a halt." .

wag the dog.

GulfCoastLaddie

I know you keep saying this about Iran but is Obama really this stupid? You may be correct it's just hard to believe.

Matthew

Col: Apparently, Hillary is also threatening the Jordanians. See http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3918876,00.html

Obama has completely surrendered to the Lobby.

confusedponderer

Depressing prospect. I'll recommend my mother to buy oil early this year.

What I wonder about most is why the people mandating these wars of choice think that they will succeed, and that they can control the outcome. Odds are that they don't and can't. They didn't in Iraq. They sure don't in Afghanistan.

Cynthia

J,

Notice that Jeffrey Goldberg, who's a well-known liar for the Likudniks, broke this story about The United Arab Emirates (UAE) not wanting to live with a nuclear Iran:

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2010/07/uae-ambassador-on-the-challenge-of-iran/59252/


So this story probably has as much truth to it as the one that the Likudnik lying-machine cooked up about how Saudi Arabia gave Israel permission to use its airspace to bomb Iran:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3742313,00.html

This leads me to say that Israel can dream all it wants about dividing the Sunnis from the Shias or the Arabs from the Persians in order to maintain its sole superpower status in the Middle East, but neither dream is ever likely to come true. But I still don't think this will stop the lying Likudniks from helping our war hawks to lie us into a war against Iran, just as they have done to us with regards to Iraq.

Nevertheless, I will point out that the rulers of the UAE have allowed a Muslim hater like Dick Cheney to use their country as a safe haven for his tax dodging activities, and they even may allow another Muslim hater like Erik Prince to use their country as a safe haven for his war criminal activities:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/blackwaters-erik-prince-moving-united-arab-emirates?page=0,0,0,1#comments

So I think it's quite conceivable that the Shia-hating, Persian-hating rulers of the UAE may indeed decide to back Israel in its war against Iran. But even if they don't back the Israelis, I still think that the BRIC block, including Turkey, and possibly even Iran, will end up as winners with the US and Israel as the losers in an Israeli-led war against Iran. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this, especially as it relates to the UAE and the BRIC block.

arbogast

Open a third front...

Historically, is there a precedent?

And yet...and yet...Colonel Lang, who certainly, certainly knows more about this than I do, says it will happen.

A Sherlock Holmes moment.

Eliminate the impossible and whatever remains...

The Israel lobby sees that it is in 1789 (how appropriate that tomorrow is Bastille Day) territory with what it has done to the American economy and realizes that more and more war is the only way it can cling to power.

This will not end well. Not in a thousand years. Yeah, those thousand years.

Patrick Lang

arbogast

If it doesn't happen, I win. pl

Fred

We should thank Businessman and WallStreet Financier Pat Toomey for his generosity with the blood of the American soldier. While he (Toomey) never had time to defend America he sure had time and courage to complain about his burden as an American and now he heaps contempt upon those who choose to spend a lifetime in service to our people rather than in pursuit of Money.

Where are all those American Jobs Toomeys Trillion (in tax cuts for wall street) made?

Cloned Poster

arbogast, 3 million chinese troops (and counting) deciding to give USA a reality check will happen very soon (the draft reality check I mean).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army

stanleyhenning@mac.com

Watching the build up of wildly ignorant diatribes on behalf of Israel I cannot help but see us approaching an Armageddon, not of good versus evil, but evil versus evil - unprecedented ignorance overshadowing the once healthy and vibrant American dream.

clifford kiracofe

The Emergency Committee for Israel...hmm, well we can monitor and analyze this network for some fun.

1. From David Frum, the Canadian Jewish follower of the US Neocons who landed a job in the Reagan White House (security clearance process???) and then did the "axis of evil" thing:


"Emergency Committee for Israel
13 Jul 2010 01:12 pm

by David Frum

Jennifer Rubin at Commentary describes the launch of a new pro-Israel group, the Emergency Committee for Israel:

There is a gaping hole in the Jewish community’s response to the Obama administration and in its defense of Israel. In the past, these groups’ close relationship with incumbent administrations has served them well. But as I have written for nearly a year, that tactic is not suited to the current challenges and has proven counterproductive in the Obama era. The need is great to expose, confront, and challenge the administration when it, for example, eggs on an international flotilla investigation or excepts Russia and China from sanctions on Iran or mindlessly pursues engagement with Syria.

Probably much of the press attention will go to the group's directors, which include Bill Kristol. But the real news is the group's director: Noah Pollak, a friend of mine, and a brilliant advocate for rethinking Israel's self-defense in a new media era. He was instrumental in persuading the Israeli Defense Forces to launch their own YouTube channel, which did enormous service rebutting falsehoods during the Gaza campaign.

It's long been a thesis of mine, to adapt Clausewitz, that modern warfare is PR by other means. Pollak understands this truth (wrote his Yale thesis on it) - and friends of Israel will be excited to watch his deployment of the truth in the critical days ahead.

Here's a link to the committee's first ad, which will run in Pennsylvania.
andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/07/emergency-committee-for-israel.html

2. And this from COMMENTARY Magazine which was founded in 1946 by the powerful American Jewish Committee. The AJC was a Wall Street emanation of the Anglo-Zionist Kuhn Loeb banking house (Jacob Schiff and all that):

"Leading conservatives will launch a new pro-Israel group this week with a scathing attack on Rep. Joe Sestak, the Democratic Senate candidate in Pennsylvania, the first shot in what they say will be a confrontational campaign against the Obama administration’s Mideast policy and the Democrats who support it.

The Emergency Committee for Israel’s leadership unites two major strands of support for the Jewish state: The hawkish, neoconservative wing of the Republican Party, many of whom are Jewish; and conservative Evangelical Christians who have become increasingly outspoken in their support for Israel. The new group’s board includes Weekly Standard Editor William Kristol and Gary Bauer, the former Republican presidential candidate who leads the group American Values, as well as Rachel Abrams, a conservative writer and activist. Former McCain aide Michael Goldfarb is an adviser to the group.

“We’re the pro-Israel wing of the pro-Israel community,” said Kristol.

This group is not affiliated with COMMENTARY but in the interests of full disclosure, we note that Noah Pollak, who has contributed to this blog as well as to COMMENTARY, will be the ECI’s executive director."
www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/rubin/326931

One might assess that the formation of this (among others) committee is an indicator the Israelis and the higher circles behind Israel are mobilizing prior to the war against Iran.

And we do recall the Brit Foreign Minister Balfour's "Declaration" was in the style of a letter to one of the higher circle of Zionism, Lord Rothschild. And, naturally, Sir William Wiseman (remember him?) was a partner at Kuhn Loeb, ho hum...

fanto

Colonel,
do the warmongers forget what General Petreus said earlier this year? I am hard pressed to believe that US will permit this war on Iran. What do you and others think about the Petreus and Mullen stated position?

GregB

Well, if you look at defense of mainland America as one front, then Afghanistan as a second front and Iraq as a third front.....then Pakistan is what? A third and a half front......then Iran...Yemen....Somalia...
Syria.....

MRW.

Is that why 46 warships and 7,000 troops are on their way to Costa Rica right now, ostensibly to combat the war on drugs? Protect against Chavez shooting at us for bombing Iran?

MRW.

The logotype for the Emergency Committee for Israel is US Military stencil type. Telling.

stanleyhenning@mac.com

If America were to launch a preemptive attack on Iran she will be seen evermore as an international Pariah, a rogue state to be disdained and avoided. This wonderful nation that we have known will become a mere footnote in history.

JohnH

As GregB notes, this is a many headed hydra. How many heads do the boosters of perpetual war think they can lop off, particularly when they haven't really succeeded anywhere?

As for Israel, they need to realize that a parasite only succeeds when it doesn't kill its host...

Fred

CP, don't worry about those Chineese troops, they are too busing building products for Walmart, Apple, etc. Give the Pat Toomey free marketers a few more years and they'll put Boeing, Lockheed and Airbus out of business without a shot. Sun Tzu indeed.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-07-12/china-s-comac-targets-new-jet-controls-with-ge-venture-contract.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100712-710161.html
http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/michigan/news.newsmain/article/0/1/1674398/Michigan.News/Plane.Being.Developed.In.China.Is.Creating.Jobs.In.Michigan


Why can't the neo-cons take an example from Reagan and attack a REAL threat like Grenada?

arbogast

I sincerely pray that you are wrong, but if I had to trust anyone's intuition, it would be yours.

We have several Lebanese friends and my daughter's best friend is Lebanese (half). She is invited to spend a month in Lebanon this summer. It would be a magical experience, but not with the IDF laying out the civilian targets as we speak.

The terrorists have won.

ex-PFC Chuck

Confusedponderer:

What I wonder about most is why the people mandating these wars of choice think that they will succeed, and that they can control the outcome. Odds are that they don't and can't. They didn't in Iraq. They sure don't in Afghanistan.

Perhaps they don't care if the war succeeds, and maybe they even don't want it to. Their main goal is to keep the $$$ flowing out of the US treasury and into their pockets.

Patrick Lang

expfcChuck

You may be right. an unholy combination of industrial interests, Ziocons and just plain crooked individuals is at work here. pl

Castellio

An article on Israeli-American relations related to the Gaza siege and the war in Iran that might be of interest to many on this site is:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20086

J

Castellio, stanleyhenning@mac.com,


It was rumored that the original subject and later creation of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security was an Israeli idea in origin.

Doesn't it look like that DHS is a mirror image of the Israeli Ministry of Public Security?

Now that is scary.

Brian Hart

Colonel, is the August/Sept time frame for our force draw down in Iraq precipitating the timing of this hysteria?

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