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28 October 2009

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Col.

Considering that Obama's Afghan policy is beginning to resemble what you have suggested it ought to be, either Obama keeps tabs on your blog or you have contributed in some capacity to the strategy review that's taking precedence in Obama's councils.

Fred

Col,

I'll put together a post for you with my thoughts and some suggested readings in your prior posts. (I think I'll have my work cut out for me, especially to stay on topic given the quality and volume there)

Patrick Lang

Fred

Thanks. I am hard pressed. pl

somebody

Pat, the US did not invent them but supported and used them and still play the enemy for them very convincingly. The enemy they need to keep their own people quiet who might not enjoy their rule. Same the US fundamentalists need them to keep their own people quiet who otherwise might demand money for themselves. How come these people were deemed the good guys during the cold war, and became the bad guys when the cold war enemy had disappeared?

Patrick Lang

somebody

The US did not support or use Al-Qa'ida. pl

ked

with Halloween & All Saint's Day upon us, a little dark humor (w/ underlying truth, unfortunately) may be in order...
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/u_s_continues_quagmire_building

walrus

With respect, none of these strategies get to the core of the problem...and it is this;

Communications technology has allowed Western secular humanist values and Western ways of thought to penetrate deep into the Muslim populations of the world. This is new, and it is causing exactly the same excruciating pain to the established Muslim Church as the invention of the printing press did to Rome, and for exactly the same reason.

For example, how difficult must it be for hard line Islamists to maintain the fiction that women are second class citizens when evidence that this is not the case is available on a USB key?

The Takfiri heretics are harking back to an older simpler life. The key to destroying them is to confront their core beliefs, but we haven't done that since it will cause "collateral damage" to fundamentalists of all other religions.

WILL

"we knocked down their towers & they still still don't get it.

"One of the 9.11 pilots in his last video testament made a dedication to the Ain Hilweh Palestinian refugee Camp in Lebanon.

Four years later, UBL
"The events that affected my soul in a direct way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American Sixth Fleet helped them in that. This bombardment began and many were killed and injured and others were terrorized and displaced.

"I couldn't forget those moving scenes, blood and severed limbs, women and children sprawled everywhere. Houses destroyed along with their occupants and high rises demolished over their residents, rockets raining down on our home without mercy.

"The situation was like a crocodile meeting a helpless child, powerless except for his screams. Does the crocodile understand a conversation that doesn't include a weapon? And the whole world saw and heard but it didn't respond.

"In those difficult moments many hard-to-describe ideas bubbled in my soul, but in the end they produced an intense feeling of rejection of tyranny, and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.

"And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon, it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children. "

I see a lot of cognitive dissonance in all the talk about takfiri salafists. And not a lot of owning up about the corrosive role of American Israeli Firsters in Israel. And American money and diplomatic cover for the Israeli occupation.

Consider that at least a quarter of the gun-toting West Bank settlers came from America!

Arun

Document 20 on this page
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB57/soviet.html has

Colonel Tsagolov’s Letter to USSR Minister of Defense Dmitry Yazov on the Situation in Afghanistan, August 13, 1987

Criticism of the Soviet policy of national reconciliation in Afghanistan and analysis of general failures of the Soviet military mission there is presented in Colonel Tsagolov’s letter to USSR Defense Minister Dmitry Yazov of August 13, 1987. This letter represents the first open criticism of the Afghan war from within the military establishment. Colonel Tsagolov paid for his attempt to make his criticism public in his interview with Soviet influential progressive magazine “Ogonek” by his career—he was expelled from the Army in 1988.

Arun

How Karzai can survive with only American financial assistance:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB57/essay.html

"In 1982, the CIA predicted that the presence of Afghan refugees in Pakistan would help "generate political unrest and retard economic development until the end of the century."(19) While many Pakistanis demonstrated great hospitality and tolerance for the refugees, others despised their presence. Cables from Pakistan reveal violent clashes between Pakistani border tribes and Afghan refugees over scarce resources and political, religious and personal differences. Some disgruntled tribes even took weapons and money from the Afghan government to disrupt rebel supply lines into Afghanistan.

In fact, the Afghan government’s infiltration of Pakistan and the rebel parties was extensive and proved key to its survival. The government’s ministry of state security, known as KHAD, sought to buy or rent the loyalty of Pashtun tribes who inhabited the Afghanistan-Pakistan border area (the tribes often inhabited both sides of the border). Weapons and money were doled out to tribal militia who in turn interdicted rebel supply operations based in Pakistan. Some tribal leaders responded to Kabul’s material aid with political support, attending government jirgahs (assemblies) and other PDPA-sponsored activities. President Zia tried to undercut the Pakistan-based tribes’ support for the Afghan government by, among other means, conducting selective anti-narcotics sweeps through their home areas. Kabul’s strategy, however, continued to be successful, and ultimately contributed to the rise of Najibullah, the KHAD’s director and the man responsible for this counterinsurgency campaign, to the leader of the DRA in 1986. "

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