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29 July 2009

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F B Ali

This would be comical if it weren’t so damn tragic!

All these experts and leaders that Richard Sale quotes seem to believe that all that needs to be done to fix the ANP is reorganization, leadership, training, etc. Which world do they live in?

The average ANP guy is an illiterate youth from the poorest strata of society, whose family paid a bribe to get him enrolled so that he could earn a living and, hopefully, alleviate their hardship. He doesn’t have any concept of state or country (very few Afghans have), or law and order, or service to the people. All he’s interested in is to survive and make some money for himself and his family (after paying the cut his superiors up the chain of command demand). He isn’t in the least interested in “holding and building”, or fighting the ferocious Taliban. It isn’t going to be any different in 2014.

To see this huge, powerful country led down this garden path by idiots and conmen – it’s downright pathetic!

Mark Stuart

Amen F B Ali !

I read somewhere that some Islamic Clerics (Saudis and else) have suggested sending a corps of their trained coreligionists to be sent to Afghanistan and Iraq to cope with the wave of "terrorists" and suicide bombers.

It seems that many a wannabe suicide bomber or "terrorist" who lacks theological knowledge and is today rotting in some jail would have been more efficiently kept away from such extreme political course of action had he been exposed to the views and teachings of those Clerics who have clearly and publicly come out against suicide bombings and such destructive actions.

Any thoughts on that perspective anyone?

Bill Wade, NH

"Child Rapist Police Return Behind U.S., UK Troops

By Gareth Porter, IPS News. Posted July 29, 2009."

Just what we don't need. Full article:
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Thank you so much Col for this education, been on vacation myself.


curious

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/30/AR2009073003948.html?hpid=topnews

The top U.S. commander in Afghanistan is preparing a new strategy that calls for major changes in the way U.S. and other NATO troops there operate, a vast increase in the size of Afghan security forces and an intensified military effort to root out corruption among local government officials, according to several people familiar with the contents of an assessment report that outlines his approach to the war.

David Habakkuk

F B Ali,

I think the difficulties you so trenchantly describe may reflect a more general problem, which haunts 'nation-building' projects.

A nation is, first and foremost, a community of people who see themselves in a certain way: that is, as individuals, having something in common with other similar individuals, which is of transcendent importance in relation to their political loyalties. What this something is varies from case to case: culture commonly enters in, as do language and ethnicity, and religion can sometimes be critical -- although it is not necessarily.

If a nation, as it were, exists in people's heads, then national institutions -- like a national police -- make sense and may perhaps be made to function effectively. Trying to create effective national institutions, if the nation does not exist in people's heads, is a waste of labour.

In relation to Afghanistan, a nation-building project implies that people in Washington or London could remodel the sense of themselves of people in Afghanistan: which is fatuous.

Alien powers can create a sense of nationhood -- but that is, commonly, in reaction against them. The role of Napoleon's armies in creating German -- and Russian -- nationalism, or of the British in creating Indian nationalism, being cases in point.

F B Ali

David,

You are right about the absolute need for a people to feel that they are a nation before national institutions can be built or can function effectively. The large majority of the Afghan people (and especially the Pashtuns) feel part of their family, clan and tribe, but not of this Western construct of an “Afghan nation”.

It is correct that the British helped create Indian nationalism, but not quite in the way you imply. They created one country (“India”) in the sub-continent, and when the means of communication began to flourish in it in the early 20th century, a sense of Indian nationhood began to sprout among literate inhabitants of this country. This nascent nationalism was then forged in the struggle for independence and spread widely among the masses. (It was only later, when independence became a tangible prospect, that older nationalisms began to arise among some sections of the population).

FB

curious

game is over for afghanistan. It's free for all phase.

http://news-en.trend.az/politics/foreign/1513583.html

Everybody knows about such projects as oil pipeline from Kazakhstan to China - Atasu-Alashankou. The second section of this pipeline is being put into operation. Moreover, the agreement on gas supply to China was signed between China and Turkmenistan.

Gusev said that such famous U.S analysts as Zbignev Bzhezinsky, consider that the USA will be able to aim undermining activity of Islamic organizations for China to create chaos there. So, the USA will try to undermine its competitor (China), growing more and more, inside.

"Last events in Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous region testify that these attempts are being taken. It is so-called theory of governed chaos," candidate of historic sciences, Gusev, said.

He said that this state of affairs in Central Asia will preserve for a long time. "Moreover, Central Asian elite are easily outbid. The last example with U.S base in Kyrgyzstan indicates to it clearly," expert said.

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