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23 August 2008

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robt willmann

Which professional politician has run for president twice and is so unappetizing to the public that he has hardly been a blip on the radar screen?

When I heard yesterday that Barack Obama chose Senator Joe Biden as his vice-presidential running mate, I was compelled to go out for some hot saki, and not to celebrate.

Joe Biden equals "change"? And "hope"?

Mr. Kiracofe deals nicely with that fiction in his comment above.

What did Biden say and how did he vote on the aggressive war against Iraq? How did he vote on providing the most critical ingredient for the foreign wars--money? How did he vote on the AntiPatriot Act and its renewal and amplification? On the Homeland Security Act which established for the first time a secret internal security appratus in this country?

Biden has supported legislation granting sweeping new federal powers, including in the criminal law area and in the vicious bankrupcy bill.

And on and on.

Joe Biden as a "fighter"?

I may again have to be the illegitimate son at a family reunion.

Biden and John McCain have been scratching at least each other's backs for 20 years. Biden is not going to attack him in any meaningful and substantive way.

Biden and McCain are both "dirty" on issues affecting most Americans: the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) and its World Trade Organization (WTO); the increase in the national debt to around $9 trillion; the bailout of banks, securities firms, and investment banks (money brokers) in the mortgage and securitization racket; the guarantees to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac of around $5 trillion more in the mortgage mess; the Telcommunications Act of 1996, that allowed mergers by telephone and broadcast companies which destroyed jobs, medical benefits, and pensions, and lessened competition in news reporting and entertainment; and so on.

Dialogue and less war in the Middle East and Central Asia?
No hope there, as Joe Biden and John McCain (R-Knesset) display not a dime's worth of difference between them.

If the Colonel's observations related above are not enough, this little article on an interview of Biden on "Shalom TV" reveals more.

http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Shalom-interview-Senator-Biden.html

Biden affirmatively says that he is a Zionist. And on the issue of Jonathan Pollard, the spy for Israel who did great damage, Biden gives a politician's murky answer that there is a rationale for giving Pollard leniency but not pardoning him as he should serve his sentence. Leniency can imply commuting a sentence and leaving the conviction intact, yet Biden says the sentence should be served. At least Biden won't be president, as long as Obama survives.

The Colonel's eyewitness testimony also discloses that Biden has his own temperament problem and so he will not attack McCain's own serious deficiency in that regard.

However, we might not have to worry about Biden as vice-president because yon Hillary has a (somewhat) lean and very hungry look. Will she try to bust Obama out at the Democrat's convention? Maybe. But she is probably setting herself up for next time.

Meanwhile, as tough as it is, we must keep the faith.

Patrick Lang

CWZ

This man was a billionaire whose ego was as big as a senator's. We got the meeting because of me, not because of him. Ego... Hmmm. pl

Patrick Lang

CWZ

I am surprised that a Washington person like you would find it surprising that appointments with congressmen or anyone else in Washington are diffucult to get for those of high net worth or influence. "On a workday?" Surely, you jest. When else would you meet? This was in his Russell building office if I remember correctly.

The staffer and I had agreed to generally discuss the "greater Middle East" but we never really got to that because of Biden's explosion. pl

Dana Jones

I have to agree with both Xerxes and R. Whitman.
Unfortunately, I feel now abut the same as I did when Kerry was running in '04, Obama is gong to loose. Choosing Hillary might have made a difference.
McSame will win, but by such a small margin that people will finally realize that a Nader vote is really a vote for the REpublican candidtate.
Then we will once again get the president we deserve, but not the one we need. The next few years are just going to get worse & worse.
This country, Democracy, and the American people are finished.

TomB

Clifford Kiracofe wrote:

"On Georgia, Biden says ... ' I left the country convinced that Russia's invasion of Georgia may be the one of the most significant event [sic] to occur in Europe since the end of communism. .... The war that began in Georgia is no longer about that country alone. It has become a question of whether and how the West will stand up for the rights of free people throughout the region.'"

Now Professor do you see what I meant before in that other thread about whether it's realistic to believe that a much less interventionist, activist U.S. foreign policy is even possible any more?

After all, here, in the wake of what has to rank as about the biggest and most unpopular interventionist foreign policy blunder in U.S. history, is the voice of perhaps the major foreign policy figure in the entire opposition party to the U.S. regime that executed that blunder. ... And the voice of the man who with unqualified cheers has now been chosen to the the opposition's vice-president.

It's not just the maneuverings of this or that foreign policy elite; it's the weltanschauung of the entire West now.

Even if we were young men, in our lifetimes at least I think we might have to say a sad farewell to Washington's Farewell Address.

Cheers,

J

What will be interesting to watch will be how the D.C. mainstream media types play with the skeletons Biden has in his closet.

D.C. isn't called the capital of sludge for nothing.

Oracle

As usual, the Democrats do not have a great short list of candidates. I would have preferred former Virginia Governor Mark Warner. I backed Obama early but never expected him to be anything but a DLC candidate, but one with enough self- control to avoid impairing his presidency by engaging in sexual escapades. But I think Biden gives Obama what he needs: a good attack dog. Obama is, I fear, emotionally unable to express anger. Right now huge numbers of Americans are angry about the economy and the Iraq war. They need a Democratic torch bearer who can tap into that anger.

Cold War Zoomie

I am surprised that a Washington person like you would find it surprising that appointments with congressmen or anyone else in Washington are diffucult to get for those of high net worth or influence.

Col Lang,
On the contrary, I can definitely understand how a billionaire could easily get an appointment "on a work day!" Probably much easier than an actual constituent. But I didn't know your client was a billionaire.

My point is that I would never, ever think of scheduling an appointment with anyone as busy as a senator just so I could drop his name in future. Seems like a waste of everyone's time. It still surprises me that people think this way.

Just because I live in DC doesn't mean I think like a lot these people. While most would call me naive I prefer the term "pure!"

The big question now is whether or not Biden knew the net worth of your client?

charlottemom

I agree with others that worry about this belicose Biben. It seems the Democrats have found their own answer to Dick Cheney

Patrick Lang

CWZ

Ah. You have me. I have long been impure. pl

Clifford Kiracofe

TomB,

I have a very hard time following your line of thought in this and on your other posts. Hence, I do not "see" what you meant and mean.

For example, 1) just what do you mean by: "It's not just the maneuverings of this or that foreign policy elite; it's the weltanschauung of the entire West now."?

Biden voted FOR the Iraq war, as you may (or apparently may not) recall as did many interventionist Democrats.

I raised the Biden quotes to put forward data on his positions and not because I agreed with them or endorse them. Let me assure you that I do not agree with them or endorse them.


All,

For those who are interested in the Farewell Address, I can recommend as a point of departure the classic:
Felix Gilbert, To the Farewell Address. Ideas of Early American Foreign Policy (Princeton: Princeton University Press,
1961). Excellent bibliographic essay included.

The Farewell Address is conveniently at:
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/washing.htm

Here is a fine passage:

"So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation."

TomB

Clifford Kiracofe wrote:

"I have a very hard time following your line of thought in this.... I raised the Biden quotes to put forward data on his positions and not because I agreed with them or endorse them."

Well since I didn't say or imply you did and it's obvious from what you'd written otherwise that you didn't....

Very informative post, thank you.

Cheers,

Cold War Zoomie

A CNN article is related to the idea of Biden as "hatchet man" and it's fun reading.

Before posting that, I'd like to make a public apology about my comments concerning Col Lang setting up the meeting for his client with Senator Biden. My comments were naive and insulting, and I apologize.

On to some fun reading.

Some people may wonder how I stay optimistic about our country. Well, because what we are seeing today is no different than what we've seen before...

Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."

In return, Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."

CNN Article - Founding Fathers' Dirty Campaign

Woah!

Matthew

Col: I may be the only one, but I do not understand your story. Is the point that Biden hates Arabs such much that their mere presence enrages him? And what was your offense: knowingly associating with a non-Zionist Middle Easterner?

Curious

The daily show has several clips. Check out Biden on Bolton, worth seeing.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/

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