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25 September 2007

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Cold War Zoomie

Hmmmm.

Maybe I should rethink my "In all fairness" post about private armies!

J

Notice how the blackwater mercs tried to bring their 'infection' into New Orleans. Outfits like blackwater have no business in a U.S. civilian urban enviornment, much less anywhere else.

Blackwater is a waste of hard earned taxpayer dollars that would be better spent on beefing up the living conditions, health care and paychecks of our military personnel who are the ones that do the real work, while the blackwater pukes prim their rooster cockdues and thunk how big-n-bad they are, when in fact blackwater are nothing more than wimps attempt to 'play' soldier.

rebel07

This list, besides making me laugh, is spot on. Though I never worked for a Blackwater type contractor, this is exactly what I think of as far as their personnel goes. I could also list people I know that fit into this category, all of which were former Cops or 1st-term Marines who buy all the high-speed, low-drag gear but can't run 3 miles wihtout collapsing. Though this is funny it is still a serious problem that must be addressed.

Michael

I'm civilian.. but I'm surprised not to see any mention here relating to the ownership of mirrored sunglasses..
:)

rjj

Zoom, I thought your "in all fairness" post was a tad rumsfeldian -- or possibly macnamaraesque.

It treated people as well-behaved little economic units. It tossed out all the nonfungible crap that makes us what we are and do the things we do -- good AND bad.

anna missed

Ha ha! If these guys ever get shut down the World Wrestling Federation is going to be swamped with applications.

jonst

Yeah well, you can do all that when you work for the 'family'. And these guys (and gals?)work,first and foremost, for the 'family'.

PR

What are we going to do with all these mercanaries if we ever become a functioning democracy again?

Abu Sinan

Now that was funny.

Charles I

I have SST fever and it is manifesting NOW...

DeLudendwarf

Doubt that Flashman's Alter Ego would be much impressed with Blackwater.

Probably had seen the Irrawaddy at flood stage once or twice.

J

while bush nose dives at the u.n., his ‘girlfriend’ condi is also nose diving with the congress.

condi has lost her marbles and is now declaring that iraq corruption and blackwater criminal misdeeds are a ’state secret’. shhh, we mustn't telll.....shhhh condi will get upset.....shhhhh....snarf!

see:

http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1497

State Department Prohibits Officials from Discussing Iraqi Corruption

The State Department has instructed its officials that they cannot communicate with the Committee about corruption in the Maliki government unless the Committee agrees to treat all information, including “broad statements/assessments,” as national security secrets. Other points of growing contention between the Committee and the State Department include Blackwater’s assertion that the State Department has instructed the company to withhold information from the Committee and the refusal of Secretary Rice to testify.

William R. Cumming

I assume Blackwater has only derivative classification authority not original classification authority.

JM

Funny...loved it; but the whole issue raises some interesting cost-effectiveness issues, doesn't it?

For example, instead of using moderately paid, and presumably well-trained, DS agents for State Department security detail, we use guys who earn "six-figure incomes."

I think I remember reading that DSS had been cut back, but as a taxpayer, I'm wondering about "value for money."

John Hammer

I wonder, can the definition of cowardice be extended to shooting at everything that moves: women, children, ect.. Oops! that is the definition of cowardice.

dSmith

What is CRG?

lina

"Despots have often surrounded themselves with bodyguards of foreign mercenaries. For example, the Byzantine emperors had their Varangians, the French kings had Scots and later their Swiss Guard, Napoleon and his Poles, and Franco had his Moors. Foreigners make more reliable and loyal bodyguards since they are in a foreign land amidst a hostile population and totally dependent upon the despot. Mercenaries were also ideal for dealing with rebellious subjects since local troops may be have been unreliable. The demand for mercenaries in Norman England was fueled by the disloyalty of feudal vassals who would normally supply troops. Deprived of many of their chief feudal assistants, the Anglo-Norman rulers were forced to hire soldiers in their bid to remain on the English throne. And, in anticipation of a civil war erupting out of the National Assembly, Louis XVI posted foreign mercenaries at key points in and around Paris."

[David Latzko, Penn. State University, "The Market for Mercenaries"]
http://www.personal.psu.edu/~dxl31/research/presentations/mercenary.html

SubKommander Dred

Charlottesville, Virginia
25 September 2009

Sir;
Another term that comes to mind regarding these Blackwater types ("operators" or "shooters") is the sobriquet "Button Man." Mario Puzo made use of this term extensively in his novel "The Godfather" and it described these persons (hired goons with guns) perfectly. Indeed, in the real life "Murder, Incorporated" (i.e. the Mafia's assasination squad of the early part of the 20th century) to be a Button Man ('the boss says to push a button on a guy, and I do it...I whack him') was the aspiration of every low life punk from the East Side.
I look at these guys, jacked up on steroids, arms bursting forth all manner of bad ink, mirrored shades, toting fierce looking popguns and I think they would have fit right in with the likes of "Kid Twist" Reles and "Lucky" Luciano.

Your most humble servant,
SubKommander Dred

Peter Principle

"What are we going to do with all these mercanaries if we ever become a functioning democracy again?"

Dunno. What did Rome do will all those Praetorian Guardsmen after IT became a functioning republic again?

Get my drift?

SubKommander Dred

Charlottesville, Virginia
25 September 2009

Sir;
Another term that comes to mind regarding these Blackwater types ("operators" or "shooters") is the sobriquet "Button Man." Mario Puzo made use of this term extensively in his novel "The Godfather" and it described these persons (hired goons with guns) perfectly. Indeed, in the real life "Murder, Incorporated" (i.e. the Mafia's assasination squad of the early part of the 20th century) to be a Button Man ('the boss says to push a button on a guy, and I do it...I whack him') was the aspiration of every low life punk from the East Side.
I look at these guys, jacked up on steroids, arms bursting forth all manner of bad ink, mirrored shades, toting fierce looking popguns and I think they would have fit right in with the likes of "Kid Twist" Reles and "Lucky" Luciano.

Your most humble servant,
SubKommander Dred

Montag

lina,
Not to mention the mad Roman Emperor Caligula's German bodyguards.

I read a true story once about an off-duty Chicago policeman who was at a bar on a date with a woman. Suddenly a group of armed robbers burst in and rob the joint. The woman knows that the cop has a pistol in an ankle-holster and hisses, "Well, aren't you going to do something?" The cop calmly looks around, noticing that the bandits are professionals who just want to efficiently loot the place and leave peacefully. He decides that JOB ONE is to keep anyone from being hurt, so he reaches down and drops his gun in a cuspidor. Obviously the woman was disappointed, but the cop was secure enough to know that an idiot like that wasn't worth impressing. It wasn't an issue of cowardice, but of common sense.

Abu Sinan

Lina has a point. Here in the DC area the security for the Saudi diplomats are always European.

In my contact with Prince Bandar's staff it was clear that his security consisted mostly of former British soldiers.

I enquired once as to why this was. I was told that Brits were not nearly as likely to be bought off as Arabs and they didnt have to worry about them being turned by Islamic extremists and killing the person they were supposed to be protecting.

lina

Re Flashman: Col., if you're a fan of G. Mac. Fraser, you'd love Bernard Cornwell.

W. Patrick Lang

Lina

I have read his books and liked them except for the Civil war books which I thought were terrible.

"The Flashman Papers" are so wonderflly comic that I prefer them.

I have also read all the Patrick O'Brien sea stories. pl

Eminence Grise

CRG = Control Risks Group

"Control Risks Group, based out of London, was founded in 1975 as a subsidiary of the Hogg Robinson insurance and travel group, becoming the first company to provide advice to clients involved in kidnap situations. The company began with the hiring of three SAS officers: Maj. David Walker, Arish Turle, and Simon Adams-Dale. Walker would go on to co-found Saladin Security and Keenie Meenie Services of Iran/Contra noteriety. Turle would go on to co-found the Risk Advisory Group after a stint at Kroll, Inc.'s office in London."

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