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27 March 2006

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Patrick henry

Colonial..Good Post..Right on Point..

Iran is the biggest Threat to Stability in the
Middle East Right now..and has been for many Years..

Larry said it was before we Invaded Iraq..and that iran should be dealth with first..

Larry also said before the invasion there would be Insurgency and Civil War and the United States had better Prepare For it..and Anticipate it..in its Pre- War Planning..

Yet..this administration was so anxious to Attack Iraq and take out Saddam..
they wanted The American People to believe that Saddam was the Greater Threat ,..and supporter of Terrorism..NOT TRUE..

..I'm Sure they knew bwetter based on the Intel they had..

The Scope of the mishandeling and pre planning of this Operation .. just can't been ignored or blow off..

Especially when this administration keeps saying over and over again..

WHO COULD HAVE~ANTICIPATED..??

Instead of showing any Appreciation to the United States for "Liberating" the Iraqi Shia..any removing Saddam..Iran is Takinbg Advantage of the situation.. and Increasing the Violence and Sectarian
Tension..

Iran has Threatened to destroy Israel..and I think the People of the United States should be better educated what Long Twerm Role IRAN has played in the Terrorist Violence all over the World and middle East..

Put it all in the Media..educated People..

At some Point we have to take Action if Diplomacy and Negotation Fails
..

Plan Ops..Stockpile Weapons so we are not depleteted if we Engage Iran..

Tell other Nations who are Interfering and Aggitation and supporting Iran to Back Off..

If we are Forced to leave Iraq now..with all the instability in the Region..It will only get Worse..Iran will moved In..

The JiHadist will claim Victory and believe it is a Sign that God is on thier Side..

They will exploite any Weakness ..The more Powerful they get..the Worst the Situation will be..

The is not a small matter that will just go away..

Thats My Opinion..

I hope we find Answers and Solutions..

We can't let the Mistakes of Iraq interfer with other Decisions and Actions we Have to Make and Take..

ckrantz

Would containment work as a strategy to slow down a nuclear program if there is no viable military options? I don't think so. Iran in any case is the real test for the Bush doctrine which looks hollow at the moment.

It is interesting how Iran is extending it's influence as the major regional power besides the US and what the Saudi reaction will be. Iraq seem to have the potential to be the battleground by proxy at least.

W. Patrick Lang

ckratz

I did not say that there were no vaible military options, just that the cost would be very high. pl

jonst

""No real army can be sustained on air transportation," Lang said."

Amen PL. This thesis has been challenged a few times. Disaster always results.

Norbert Schulz

Stalingrad became one of these air transport experiments iirc.

The commando option must certainly appeal to guys who like Michael Dudikoff movies. Beware, that might include GWB.

Interesting article, PL.

Seems to me that the U.S. has basically two choices - either live with a nuclear capable Iran, or attack in the belief that if we don't act now ... well, you know the tune.
I don't buy the idea that a nuclear Iran would 'embolden terrorists', as is frequently voiced. Iran would certainly not proliferate nukes to terrorists as they do have a return adress and thus can be deterred. And then, add all the capital spent on aquiring them - only to see them giving up control and handing them to a proxy? Unlikely.
But having nukes as an insurance will strengthen their position, not only toward the U.S. but against their neighbours Iraq and Pakistan and Russia. With nukes, Iran would be a much tougher patron for proxies like Hezbollah - because they could then deter intervention or invasion. Even though that's probably right, the 'emboldening' argument is misleading when used in the nuclear context.

I found the part 'Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's "curious" approach to diplomacy must be viewed in the context of the United States' central position in Iranian political narratives and the national imagination. The 1953 CIA coup which overthrew Iranian Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadeq was the starting point for a system of beliefs that continued until the 1980s, when the stalemate of the Iraq-Iran war led many Iranians to believe that "outside superpowers were propping up Saddam (Hussein)'s regime.' illuminating.
It sheds light on the roots of the 'Great Satan' rhetoric that are usually left out in U.S. mainstream reporting on Iran, suggesting the Iranians one morning woke up with a ravenous bloodthrist and deep hatred against everything American.

W. Patrick Lang

Norbert

I was thinking of Stalingrad when I said that.

In re Iranian support to terrorism I have never thought they would give nukes to terrorists, but there are many other ways to support them. pl

ali

Talk of big commando raids is rather foolish I'm reminded of Operation Eagle Claw.

One of the "costs" you'd have to consider here is Iranian intelligence isn't a relatively feeble amateur outfit like AQ. They've had much practice, a long time to prepare and their retaliation might put 9-11 in the shade.

Unfortunately we've yet to see innovative terrorism's full power as a strategic weapon.

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