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04 March 2006


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The AK 47 is not too accurate and it has a rainbow trajectory.

For my money I'd go with the AK 74. Flatter trajectory and easier to control in full auto. Those pieces just stay right on target when you hold the trigger back.

I don't know if you can find any ammo for the 74, though. I think the ball ammo is armor piercing and therefore prohibited in the US. Perhaps the Colonel has channels by which he could get past that problem?


Poor Grandpa's Deaf Now , but when we get some of This in him, we can manage him.


IMO, other than nuclear weapons, the AK-47 has been the most worthy aspirant to the title of WMD. Cheap, reliable, easily mastered and - most of all - readily available, it's inflicted untold thousands of casualties over the decades.

Perhaps I'm biased, as I once found myself on the wrong end of that rainbow trajectory. Nope, no pot of gold, I'm afraid.

Norbert Schulz

I remember seeing a repoert about an Pakistani town where craftsmen make AK-47 (and lots of other weapons) with primitive tools and then ship them to the best bidder.

That's what I find impressive: The design is so robust, that it even works reliably with the rough manufaturing tolerances of primitive manufacturing.

Is the AK-47 perfect? I don't think so, but it certainly is good enough for it's purpose.

W. Patrick Lang


That is up in tribal territory where bin Laden is hiding. pl

Norbert Schulz

A former boss of mine, he was from India, and a historian, once explained to me how the British had dealt with the tribals during the Raj.

Perferrably not at all.

The informal agreement the British had with the tribals was iirc along the lines: We own the streets (and iirc the major cities) and want to use them unhindered, and when you attack us, we retaliate swiftly - and then get the hell out of there (before the locals can retaliate).

The British accepted that whoever left the streets and ventured into the countryside, did so at his own peril.
In return the British offered trade and left them alone otherwise. That iirc worked reasonably well as a modus vivendi.

Today, this receipe probably cannot work anymore. IIRC the Al Quaeda folks have married in the local societies, and so became part of them, and tradition demands them to be defended as kin. Extradition is unthinkable, and that is simply unacceptable for the U.S.

Considering the remarkable reputation of the locals as fighters, I pity the Pakistani soldiers actually tasked (as a result of U.S. pressure) with trying to enforce gvt control in the tribal area (just like U.S troops tasked with operating there, quite a high risk job).

That was his 'lesson' (and lessons our conversations were) about the war on terror in Afghanistan. Gee, high time I show up at his place for a chat.

W. Patrick Lang


I will look into this business of AK-74 ammunition.

I always liked the Czech made AKs the best.

The guns made on the NW Frontier in Pakistan look good but are made of inferior materials. Don't fire one... pl

Cloned Poster

PL, check the Yorkshire Ranter on the AK47.


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