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07 September 2005


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What would be the expected rank of the officer in charge of the 550 person unit that was serving at the Superdome? The unit that took 11 hours to process the 9000 civilians that showed up at the superdome the day the rain started?
Can a 550 person NG unit locked and loaded maintain order and discipline for 6 days?
Has anyone heard from General Ralph Lupin ( commanding general of the Nat Guard unit ) since the day the rains started to fall?
How would one get the daily sitreps from the OIC at the Superdome or the after action report or the lessons learned report?
Just asking.

Pat Lang


FOIA I guess. The unit should have been a battalion probably of MPs. Lieutenant Colonel in command maybe?

Keep order? These are amateur soldiers and we do not know what their instructions were.



Some thoughts on the behaviour of non-military folks in stressed situations.
1) It is a commonplace scene in almost half the war/action/cowboys movies that make up our cultural heritage: The injured/lost/hiding hero/heroine firing their weapon to get the attention of otherwise blind and blithely ignorant rescuers. I suspect that doing so in real life in a NOLA situation makes one a trained sniper trying to destroy rescue helicopters as far as the press is concerned.
2) By the third day, the superdome had approx 20K people and the convention center another 20K. I wonder in a poor civilian population how many of those 20K might be expectant or new mothers who came to the center without enough formula or diapers or safety pins. Might that explain why we saw so many photos of young men and women pushing shopping carts loaded with forumla and water and anything edible and diapers? Looters all.
3) I wonder how many folks arrived barefoot or half naked. That could not be even a partial explanation for seeing young folks pushing shopping carts full of sneakers and clothes toward the dome and the convention center. Looters all.
4) I wonder how many of the folks in the convention center and the dome were atomistic individuals knowing no one else in the crowd, arriving alone and not merging into the various groupings that had sprung up by church or street or tenement or apartment floor. Family does for family, family and friends do for family and friends, family and friends and neighbours coalesce into tribes and help each other.
I wonder about many things because I am not a smart man, not a democrat nor a Democrat, not a believer in what I am told by people with agendas and careers and asses to cover. I wonder why the first response was to assume that the folks left behind were insurgents and that the proper objective was to make NOLA look like "little somalia." I wonder how soon that Perfumed Prince will get his next star.


"I guess we can hope that there wil be a few Trajans, Hadrians and Antonines down the road somewhere."

Plato, Livy, Machiavelli all wrote post-mortems (and valedictions). Time for the boffins to dust off their keyboards.

...so it goes.


the above refers to the classic works on Republics.

Michael Singer

Not allowing the images of dead soliders at DoverAB is step one and not showing dead bodies in N.O.is step two. Don't tell me it's common decency. It's propoganda by ommission and censorship for the benefit of the White House.

Pat Lang


Amen, brother.


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