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Maureen Lang

Cieran,

Getting these image results from your back yard? I'm stunned! And a wonderful step-by-step explanation of how it was accomplished as well. You may have gone beyond simple astronomy geekdom here into the realm of divine astro-geekdom. Can't wait to enlarge the Orion Nebula, NGC891, & Jupiter pics on my Bravia.

Profound thanks for posting this.


John Minnerath

Nice series Cieran.
The sky above is full of wonders for those who will seek them out.
The advent of digital cameras and the processing programs for the images has opened up a whole new world of astrophotography, images not even possible by large observatories not many years ago.
Looking at your work tempts me to submit a series.
I had sent PL one image of a sunrise colored by volcanic aerosols, but I haven't sent in any others.
Maybe when my new camera gets here I'll submit a series of the Sun in Hydrogen Alpha, another new field for backyard astronomers. Or a series on Jupiter, or? :), there is just no end to the list of things to see and photograph in the sky around us.

Cieran

John:

You sound like someone who knows what he's doing! Hydrogen alpha images of the Sun? Please (!!!) consider showing off some of those! Give in to that temptation!

I'll be the first to admit that I don't know what I'm doing on this front. I know where the cool objects are to be found (a lifetime of visual observing does produce that side-effect), but this whole "connecting the camera to the telescope" topic is new to me, so if you have some expertise, it would be great to see the results.

John Minnerath

Cieran,

Observing that great fusion furnace of the Sun through an Ha scope and seeing in real time the incredible prominences and power of our "star" in action is a mind blowing experience.

Of interest only to those who may be interested in amateur astronomy, my main scope for the past 15 years has been a split ring JMI NGT 12.5 inch in my observatory.

I'm waiting on a DMK camera, a high resolution, specialty thing, that should let me produce some nice Solar and planetary images.
I never though I would leave film and join this digital age, :).

I'll put together a few images today of subjects that can in most cases be seen by anyone with the naked eye and submit them here for consideration.


optimax

Cieran,

Your photos are impressive and beautiful black swans swimming in space. I'm glad you know where to look and how to photograph. Not being that familiar with digital photography, I was wondering when you mention multiple exposures whether it is in the camera (same frame) or do you combine the exposures in photo shop, or what ever program you use?

Also admired your lightening photos. I miss the lightening storms that lit up the desert in Tucson, the Pacific Northwest has lots of rain but few lightening storms.

We usually do get a good view of the Perseid but this year was too overcast to see the sky. Last week I was sitting in my backyard on a clear night and saw a nice little fireball flash across the sky showing its smokey trail before it burned up.

Cieran

Optimax:

Good question! While I have heard tell of experienced astrophotographers superimposing a wide range of exposures (sometimes even from different telescopes!), I'm a complete neophyte, so I use a sequence of identical settings, e.g., same scope, same night (to help insure some level of consistency in the statistical distribution of noise, as it varies with camera temperature), same camera, same exposure settings, etc.

I'm sure as I figure out what I'm doing, I'll start elaborating, but for now, I choose to confuse one issue at a time!

Finally, some folks use photoshop or GIMP for this. I use a great program called "Nebulosity" to handle the nebula and such, and another program called "Registax" to handle the planetary images. Each has its own learning curve, and I'm glad to say that I'm learning (e.g., as of last week I was getting much better images of Jupiter than the one shown in the article).

Hope this helps!

optimax

Cieran,

Yes, it helps. Thank you. Now if I can only apply this to my Yashica D or Minolta SRT101, I can join the 21st century. Hope to see your new Jupiter pictures.

John Minnerath

Astrophotography soon gets really involved.
If you have a camera with a removable lens, then with parts Cieran mentioned above, you can attach directly to a telescope. Otherwise you can do Afocal photography or Piggy Back the camera to a scope.
For anything but the shortest exposures a driven mount is needed.
Then there's Polar Alignment, Guiding, Auto-guiding with a special camera also attached, plus computer, on and on.
Here is a good forum to browse through. Quite a bit of information about the basics and techniques involved, one of many dealing with the subject.
http://www.telescopejunkies.com/
One can go for the ultimate or do what I strive for, which is to get photos that are pleasing to the eye and that others will enjoy also. All the while trying to keep the cost of equipment within reason.

Cieran

John:

It's true that astrophotography can get involved very quickly, but there's still lots to do with relatively rudimentary equipment. A good polar alignment is pretty easy, and insures that the axes of the telescope's mount point in appropriate celestial directions. I am in the habit of doing that step first, and pretty soon, it becomes a routine process that is both easy and pleasant (pleasant because much of the effort involves just sitting for awhile under the stars).

Beyond that alignment and basic drive step, additional guiding isn't required for many interesting objects (e.g., planets), and while auto-guiding is really useful for long exposures (i.e., many minutes), all of the images I showed here use only the built-in and generally overmatched clock drive functions of my off-the-shelf telescopes with their stock mounts. So you can do a lot with very little.

Not that I wouldn't like more cool toys, of course!


p.s. I looked at your "Visual Observations" document, and it's GREAT! If you want me to convert it to some appropriate HTML with embedded images for distribution here instead of as a downloaded document, let me know.

John Minnerath

Cieran,
Sorry about my photo submission here. I made it with MS Works9, not knowing that odd ball program wasn't compatible with anything else in the known universe!
I've since got rid of it and installed MS Office.
I sent PL a version in MS Word, but I don't know if it went through or if he just hasn't had time to look at and replace the uncooperative version I originally sent.

Yes, astrophotography is great, and some cool stuff can be done with a minimum of equipment and effort.

Charles I

Those are fabulous. We have a telescope at the cottage but it never occurred to me to buy a digital slr and give it a go. But there's no computers allowed!

Thanks for sharing

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